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Post by vampdiaries808 on Feb 1, 2013 12:04:04 GMT -5
Oh God. I have so many feelings about this episode...My parents showed up unexpectedly last night so I couldn't watch until earlier today and...What. The. Hell. There were two things I was very sure and very vocal about while we were discussing 4x12 in the spoiler threads: 1) The writers wouldn't be stupid enough to kill Kol permanently, especially with an Original spin-off in the works. 2) Klaus and Damon's "personal advice" would have nothing to do with Caroline. So am I good at predictions or what? Anyway, while I was pleasantly surprised at being wrong re:speculation No2 (and I'm going to comment on that later, because right now my Original feelings are still overwhelming me), I am still in a stage of shock and rage over Kol's death. WTH show! Four for you, queen Elena for the genocide you just commited! I don't think I've even hated Elena before (although everyone's fascination with her has annoyed me for a while now)...but now I really do. I am just so mad at her. And I am so mad at how they made a baby vamp and a human (hunter but still human) overpower a 1000 year old Original. Show has f-ed up so much with the Originals' powers, they need to decide if they're supposed to be super-strong or they can be taken down by anyone. I'm half-expecting Tyler to kick Klaus' butt next week... Which brings me to the part that slayed me even more that Kol's death. Klaus was just standing there, watching his brother die, helpless and unable to do anything. And then they "locked" him in the house to spend the next few days with his brother's dead body. I HATE EVERYTHING (but mostly Elena Gilbert). He didn't want him to die! But Kol died thinking that his brother was in the plan too! And the episode was titled "A View To A Kill". KEEP IT TOGETHER TANIA.I'm also extra annoyed with Stefan for the Rebekah part, and although he changed his mind, I don't think I can really support Stebekah after all the manipulation. And I don't completely understand why Rebekah {Spoiler} Spoiler: Click Here To View goes to that island with Elena and co after they just murdered another one of her brothers? I know this post is a mess and I will try for a more coherent approach later on but the wound is just too fresh now. UGH Elena. TANIA!! FINALLY. ;D YES TO ALL^ Ugh im so [censored]ed at Elena atm and I even saw some Klaus hate on twitter so I was defending him against one DEr and SEr Im digusted by how the gilberts overpowered Kol and how he died thinking KLAUS was in on the plan AND HIS FACE. UGH LET ME LOVE YOU I was very surprised at prediction number two not coming true, either
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Post by Mandy on Feb 1, 2013 12:17:06 GMT -5
Sorry, what I mean is if Caroline goes into the barrier klaus is in, can she get out? or does she get stuck there? Can anyone get into it? Maybe they'll have a time lapse in the next episode and {Spoiler: Click Here To View}Klaus will be out of his barrier and Bek and the MF gang will be on the island. Klaus is in Elena's house and wearing the same clothes in 4x14, so it looks like he's stuck there for the next two episodes. I hope he drinks all of Elena's blood bags..lol What could SE fans have to be mad at Klaus about??? For the second episode in a row KLAUS ended up looking better than everyone else. He's not double crossed one single person this entire season, but the MF gang have been a much of conniving schemers. SO MUCH HATE RIGHT NOW. I'm so ready for this spin off.
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Post by tania on Feb 1, 2013 12:17:09 GMT -5
Wait, why would SErs hate on Klaus right now? I've seen a few DErs whining in youtube comments, but it really is beyond me that the guy had to witness his brother's death, unable to help him (and probably lived another Henrik situation all over again) and all they got from the episode is that his Stelena comments were not cool and he was mean to Damon. God, I can't wait for the spin-off. I was sceptical at first, but the idea sounds better and better every day. Especially since I won't have to endure the Saint-Elena and the Holy Salvatores BS any more.
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Post by tania on Feb 1, 2013 12:20:33 GMT -5
LOL Mandy, matching comments!
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Post by Mandy on Feb 1, 2013 12:36:30 GMT -5
LOL Mandy, matching comments! That's because great minds think alike
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Feb 1, 2013 12:55:42 GMT -5
Wait, why would SErs hate on Klaus right now? I've seen a few DErs whining in youtube comments, but it really is beyond me that the guy had to witness his brother's death, unable to help him (and probably lived another Henrik situation all over again) and all they got from the episode is that his Stelena comments were not cool and he was mean to Damon. God, I can't wait for the spin-off. I was sceptical at first, but the idea sounds better and better every day. Especially since I won't have to endure the Saint-Elena and the Holy Salvatores BS any more. It was just one SEr that I was talking to on Twitter. and yes it was so cruel of the writers having Klaus witness Kol burning alive arghhhh. I'm still a bit sceptical about the spin off tbh but a ticket out of Saint Elena is intriuging LOL Mandy!! I want Klaus to clog all the toilets, like you suggested on tumblr, LMFAO
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Post by Mandy on Feb 1, 2013 13:09:25 GMT -5
Wait, why would SErs hate on Klaus right now? I've seen a few DErs whining in youtube comments, but it really is beyond me that the guy had to witness his brother's death, unable to help him (and probably lived another Henrik situation all over again) and all they got from the episode is that his Stelena comments were not cool and he was mean to Damon. God, I can't wait for the spin-off. I was sceptical at first, but the idea sounds better and better every day. Especially since I won't have to endure the Saint-Elena and the Holy Salvatores BS any more. It was just one SEr that I was talking to on Twitter. and yes it was so cruel of the writers having Klaus witness Kol burning alive arghhhh. I'm still a bit sceptical about the spin off tbh but a ticket out of Saint Elena is intriuging LOL Mandy!! I want Klaus to clog all the toilets, like you suggested on tumblr, LMFAO Hahaha! I'm becoming so juvenile and I don't even care.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Feb 1, 2013 13:12:20 GMT -5
@mandy: When I read that, I was alone in my room and I litteraly started LOLing.
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Post by sourwolf on Feb 1, 2013 16:14:44 GMT -5
Rebekah was still angry with Kol for their fight in the previous episode. Her lack of anger about them killing her brother may have just been because she's still [censored]ed at him for threatening to stake her. Once she lets that go I think Elena, Stefan, and Damon are going to have to deal with Rebekah's wrath too. Someone here even suggested that Rebekah might be planning avenge Kol's death once the cure is found and for now she's just leading on Stefan to believe she's still an ally. My prediction when the cure storyline started was that Damon would be the one to be cured of vampirism. Maybe that will be Rebekah's way of revenge.
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Post by Donna on Feb 1, 2013 21:07:33 GMT -5
If the cure is really a cure for vampirism, then maybe Bek's revenge will be in the form of making sure none of the MF gang gets it. Or only certain one. Even though Stefan didn't dagger her, he did know that the Gilberts wanted to kill Kol and he's betrayed her before. Maybe she'll only turn Stefan and not Elena. Remember he told her that he wanted the cure so he could grow old with Elena. Or maybe she'll use it on Damon like you said Sour Wolf.
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Post by SireMe on Feb 2, 2013 1:46:50 GMT -5
Can we just worry about Shane for a minute? One of his heroes is gone. And what happened to Kol's bat? HIS BAT!!! NO!! WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT DONNA!?! I JUST STARTED CRYING ALL OVER AGAIN!! Sorry Kat, you already know this via Twitter, but I am fully supportive of Jeremy dying. I was forced to rewatch that fateful scene from Kol's death all the way to Klaus' imprisonment at work today because a coworker missed it, and you know what I caught the second time around that I missed the first?! THE LITTLE GILBERT WENT FOR THE WHITE OAK STAKE AND HAD IT AT THE READY WHEN KLAUS WAS BANGING ON THE INVISISHIELD! I'm sorry, you just killed my sadistic baby Kol and you're bout to go for my papa hybrid now? DIE LITTLE GILBERT DIE! I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've been trying to be cool all day...
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Post by sourwolf on Feb 2, 2013 3:24:49 GMT -5
If the cure is really a cure for vampirism, then maybe Bek's revenge will be in the form of making sure none of the MF gang gets it. Or only certain one. Even though Stefan didn't dagger her, he did know that the Gilberts wanted to kill Kol and he's betrayed her before. Maybe she'll only turn Stefan and not Elena. Remember he told her that he wanted the cure so he could grow old with Elena. Or maybe she'll use it on Damon like you said Sour Wolf. Stefan has expressed that he does want the cure, though. That's why my thinking is that Damon will get it instead. I think she'd be more inclined to force the cure on someone who has no interest in being human again.
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Post by aeidail on Feb 2, 2013 8:31:37 GMT -5
I REFUSE to believe that Rebekah is not mad at them. I simply refuse! She lost not one, but TWO brothers at their hands and she has gotta to be raging mad inside. I think she's playing them...mmmhm..she must be. She has to. Kol's death was badly written. What, he just walked into their house with that stake and Elena&Co didn't even think about how to get their hands on the stake before? Lol..when Elena finally does something of [censored]ery, it's too contrived to give her the actual credit! *shrugs*
I'm still not over how they got away for killing Kol. Just NO! I hope Klaus kills one of them...Damon preferably...RIGHT.IN.FRONT.OF.ELENA. He breaks all the bones in Stefan's body (but not before some Klefan angst and for the final time)... and Jeremy DIES. Bonnie gets punished again...this time permanently and SOUNDLY and she's forced to go back to the spirits, start from scratch and deal with excessive nosebleeds and all. Elena doesn't get to be human...like EVER. Now..now, she FULLY deserves to get her heart broken by the human/resurrected Damon, get a taste of her own medicine. That wretched girl!
I JUST DON'T CARE! I'm still quite livid right now. Rebekah and Elijah can deliver their own brand of retribution. If this is the last season they'll be in, I'm sure the writers won't let us down. They'll give the Originals a grand unforgettable exit. The spinoff may have spoiled some things, but I dunno, this also gives Klaus a distinct sort of entitlement and space to completely exhaust his "evilness"/other present character traits on TVD and get away with it, alive. Hell yes! DON'T LET US DOWN, KLAUS.
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Post by Donna on Feb 2, 2013 11:05:30 GMT -5
If the cure is really a cure for vampirism, then maybe Bek's revenge will be in the form of making sure none of the MF gang gets it. Or only certain one. Even though Stefan didn't dagger her, he did know that the Gilberts wanted to kill Kol and he's betrayed her before. Maybe she'll only turn Stefan and not Elena. Remember he told her that he wanted the cure so he could grow old with Elena. Or maybe she'll use it on Damon like you said Sour Wolf. Stefan has expressed that he does want the cure, though. That's why my thinking is that Damon will get it instead. I think she'd be more inclined to force the cure on someone who has no interest in being human again. Wasn't Stefan's interest in the cure so that he could grow old and have a family with Elena? It'd be a twist if one of them got it and the other didn't get it. Tyler also doesn't want the cure, but I'm doubting he'll be the one it would be forced upon. Dee.....I'll have to force myself to watch that again. Klaus was banging at the invisible barrier to the Gilbert house?! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh My Feeeeeels
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Post by Mandy on Feb 2, 2013 11:33:07 GMT -5
I REFUSE to believe that Rebekah is not mad at them. I simply refuse! She lost not one, but TWO brothers at their hands and she has gotta to be raging mad inside. I think she's playing them...mmmhm..she must be. She has to. Kol's death was badly written. What, he just walked into their house with that stake and Elena&Co didn't even think about how to get their hands on the stake before? Lol..when Elena finally does something of [censored]ery, it's too contrived to give her the actual credit! *shrugs* I'm still not over how they got away for killing Kol. Just NO! I hope Klaus kills one of them...Damon preferably...RIGHT.IN.FRONT.OF.ELENA. He breaks all the bones in Stefan's body (but not before some Klefan angst and for the final time)... and Jeremy DIES. Bonnie gets punished again...this time permanently and SOUNDLY and she's forced to go back to the spirits, start from scratch and deal with excessive nosebleeds and all. Elena doesn't get to be human...like EVER. Now..now, she FULLY deserves to get her heart broken by the human/resurrected Damon, get a taste of her own medicine. That wretched girl! I JUST DON'T CARE! I'm still quite livid right now. Rebekah and Elijah can deliver their own brand of retribution. If this is the last season they'll be in, I'm sure the writers won't let us down. They'll give the Originals a grand unforgettable exit. The spinoff may have spoiled some things, but I dunno, this also gives Klaus a distinct sort of entitlement and space to completely exhaust his "evilness"/other present character traits on TVD and get away with it, alive. Hell yes! DON'T LET US DOWN, KLAUS. You're blood thirsty and I like it!! You're right that the spin off has kind of freed him up to be as evil as he wants to be there at the end. He can whatever he wants and there's no fear of retribution because he's getting his own show. LOVE IT. Just when I think I'm getting over it a bit, I think of Elena's "we had no choice!" line and then I start RAGING and I want to punch her in the face. SO glad the writers at least had Klaus acknowledge the fact that "um...he's in your freaking house, you set a trap". Elena, honey, you can't claim self defense if you planned on killing him. And at the beginning when Stefan point blank said "Klaus is going to dagger him" and Elena was all "I don't want him just daggered". STOP IT I HATE YOU. I'm mad at Stefan, too. Basically I am mad at everyone except Klaus and Caroline right now. Rebekah i am reserving judgement. If she pulls Elena aside and tells her how she's going to kill her when this whole cure business is done, then I won't be mad at her. this probably goes in the 4x13 thread, but the first webclip for it, when Elena is complaining about how she doesn't want Rebekah there and Damon says "he just brought her to prove to you he's over you and show me that I don't get under his skin"...or something like that. Way to make everything about you two! I'm sorry, but I don't think I will like any of these people again Dee, I am with you on the jeremy thing. An eye for an eye.
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