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Post by Mandy on Mar 22, 2013 11:57:49 GMT -5
The Damon thing...Yuck. He killed her because she made him feel bad? What did he think he'd feel after killing his brother's best friend on his birthday?  Let me get this straight....If Silas takes the cure and kills himself then he'll be stuck on the other side of the veil with other supernaturals instead of with his true love? Because he was a warlock before he was an immortal vampire? So, the supernaturals on the other side will come back to earth, but his true love won't? He's creating this big mess because he wants to be dead with his true love? Rebekah....Please be playing Elena so you can get to the cure first. That was harsh, but necessary what Klaus did to Caroline. She DOES need to learn she can't treat him like garbage and then come to him when she needs him. Actually, the whole MF gang needs this. Klaus, sorry we tried to stick you in cement and killed your baby brother, but we need your help to find the cure. Yes, his one true love has already passed on. She was a human, so she's not "on the other side". If he dies right now, he'd go to there instead of where his girlfriend is. I guess even with the cure, he'd go there since he's a witch after being a vampire? Sort of like how if Klaus took the cure, he'd still be a werewolf? Silas made it seem like no matter if he was immortal or not, he'd still go to "purgatory" (no idea what to call it and I've been watching SPN...lol). So the wall has to be down, that way he can die and cross over. I was Team Silas for a while, but now I'm not so sure. I like the idea of Klaus and Silas working together (and will this mean the MF gang will have to work Klaus as well because if he dies, they all die?) but when he hurts my bb Klaus like that, I was like NOPE. I wonder if this is why Rebekah ends up not taking the cure? To save her brother? |
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Post by Donna on Mar 22, 2013 11:59:24 GMT -5
What makes you think Bek takes the cure? And should we take this to another thread?  Edited to say: Was reading the EW reviews and some people thought the writers rewrote history for this episode. Like Lexi told Damon "After 100 years, I realize death means nothing without you. Do me". And she's stronger than him. Why didn't she snap his neck or take his ring on the rooftop. and why couldn't she break down the door? How was Damon getting down if the only escape path was blocked? And Lexi and Stefan in MF in the 70s? Supposedly he said in S1 that he hadn't been back since the 50s. There could still be people in town from the 70s that might recognize him. |
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Post by ladyjscarlett on Mar 22, 2013 14:39:52 GMT -5
Do I want to know what Carina or Andy Swift said? Carina didn't say much, or at least that I what I read. She said she was pretty much over "the race for the cure", and that was bummed that older and wiser Lexi fell for Damon. Didn' understand that part. But, I am pretty thinking that we all did not agree with that storyline. However, I do know that people are cheering for the new phrase, "You got Lexied?" Also, saw that EW posted that the Vampire Diaries had a ratings surge on last night's episode. Great news! I would like to think it is because of the Klaus/Caroline/Stefan interaction. EW calling these three as the next possible triangle. They said this in writing....so I guess they want to see something besides Stefan/Elena/Damon. Okay about the episode.... Tonight's random hook-up was Damon and Lexi? From the 70's? So she had the hots for Damon all along, and not Stefan... Hmmm... and yet, more believable than Klayley. Rebekah is perfect. Except for helping Elena. It puzzles me. Loved the KC banter. Is it me or did Caroline seem disappointed Stefan came in the room when she was staring at Klaus' lips over the map? It is not just me is it? I feel for Caroline. But her killing the witch and not realizing the ramifications was in character. She is a baby vampire, and her reflexes went for the kill and not just wounding the witch to incapacitate her. But her reaction to when she realized what she had done.... Bravo to Klaus to calling her out on it. But his face seemed to falter a little when she left, and I had the feeling he would have gone after her if Silas would not have showed up. But then there is part of me that did not want him to go after her, or console her, and then a HUGE part that did. And yes, the tension was incredible. Undeniable chemistry. |
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Post by horsecrazy on Mar 22, 2013 14:51:46 GMT -5
I do think he was about to go after her when Silas made his appearance. Or, at the very least, judging by the look on his face, he very much WANTED to go after her. I think he had a brief moment of satisfaction, and then immediately felt like garbage for not comforting her. And, yes, I think Caroline was definitely disappointed when Stefan walked into the room. I also loved her deer-in-headlights look when Klaus mentioned even the purest of hearts being drawn to darkness.
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Post by aeidail on Mar 22, 2013 15:29:49 GMT -5
Donna...yes, terrible business with the Damon-Lexi storyline. As much as I love Lexi even though she was quite over-bearing in the 40's flashback, I hope the writers don't bring her back again. She has kinda become this joke with everyone in the story and it's sad to see that.
I was looking forward to the Damon-centric episodes this season and 4X08 was quite lame and badly-written. What? He had cared so much about Stefan back then that it didn't count for anything when he turned up in Mystic Falls later. What is the deal with Damon's humanity switch?! Stefan's wasn't like that.
And this episode was just the worst. Damon is mean, we know. No need to replay it like that! I still didn't get the point behind the Damon-lexi thing here. It's not like we haven't seen him like this before or without his humanity. It was an utter waste. And all the parallels, regarding the present Damon-Elena situation were absurd because it's obvious Elena has become this weak despicable thing that nothing could be applied to her.
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Post by Donna on Mar 22, 2013 15:50:20 GMT -5
So, would you think by looking at the "162 Candles" clip that I posted that they'd had a fling (albeit pretend on Damon's part) in the 70s? I wouldn't have guessed. I also don't get the retcon of his reason for killing Lexi. He had someone to blame the MF killings on so that the local authorities wouldn't guess it was him. And I think he was wanting to hurt Stefan. Remember they were at each other's throats when Damon showed up in MF? Perhaps he was jealous of the Stefan & Lexi friendship.
But now he says it's because he feels bad for playing with her feelings and stranding her on a rooftop, he killed her. Ummmm death is much more permanent. And Lexi took him down in the clip I posted. Why didn't she try in the 70s? How could he get down from the roof if she couldn't?
I don't think Caroline had a disappointed look on her face, but Klaus did. She more of had the "I almost got caught making goo goo eyes at Klaus. Remember he's the bad guy, Caroline!" look.
Like I said the whole MF gang irks me that they can try to stick Klaus in concrete with his sister and then ask for his help the next. True Klaus has his reasons for not wanting Silas to complete the triangle. Caroline forgot to mention Stefan in her accusation about Klaus not wanting to save Bonnie. I think Stefan wasn't going to either, because he realized it was for the greater good.
I don't think Klaus was going to go after Caroline, but did feel bad until Silas came along and distracted him from his thoughts. And I'm glad he didn't. Let her stew for a while. She may have saved Bonnie in the short run, but doomed EVERYONE in the long run.
Edited to say: LOL at the Lexi/Damon tryst having more chemistry than the Klayley tryst. It's SO true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by horsecrazy on Mar 22, 2013 17:57:27 GMT -5
Someone just posted on their tumblr that their favorite part of 4x17 was that Klaus dug all twelve graves even though he was mad at Caroline. That's a good point. You may have rejected her in the end, but that's still a lot of hot, sweaty work for one woman, Klaus.
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Post by Maddieme on Mar 22, 2013 18:46:58 GMT -5
^^ yes! And just earlier in the episode he made it pretty clear he doesn't get his hands dirty. I find it ironic a few episodes ago she was saying he can be saved and he has always saved her but I wonder if 4x18 she saves him,
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Post by horsecrazy on Mar 22, 2013 19:28:37 GMT -5
I think she is going to for once. I know this is supposed to be a big Klaroline episode anyway, but I think there will be a lot of emphasis on the Caroline half of it. We finally have confirmation, from her, that she has felt an attraction for him, and I feel like these last couple of episodes have really started to move the ship forward from her perspective. They aren't just going to drop that, especially in an episode that centers around the pair.
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Post by klovec on Mar 23, 2013 9:13:15 GMT -5
How come almost no one has commented on Stephan looking at Caroline and his little laugh after the allure of darkness comment? It left me curious as to what he notices and doesn't.
Also, I'm annoyed that people are upset that Caroline killed the witches to save Bonnie. Is Elena the only person that deserves for people to make huge sacrifices? Bonnie lost her grandma, mom, and Jeremy to help or because of Elena.
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Post by Donna on Mar 23, 2013 9:25:19 GMT -5
I didn't see Stefan look at Caroline. I noticed he snickered at Klaus and I think he saw him look Caroline's way.
Well, I've seen complaints that Caroline should have grabbed Bonnie and sped her away with her vampire speed. I think that the witches may have done to her what they did to Stefan, TBH. I could be wrong though.
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Post by klovec on Mar 23, 2013 9:33:59 GMT -5
I didn't see Stefan look at Caroline. I noticed he snickered at Klaus and I think he saw him look Caroline's way. Well, I've seen complaints that Caroline should have grabbed Bonnie and sped her away with her vampire speed. I think that the witches may have done to her what they did to Stefan, TBH. I could be wrong though. Dang it. Let me rewind. You're right. He didn't look at her. My mind is playing tricks on me. Ugh. Oh, looking at. Tumblr I realized that some people do not know who Magellan is. Sigh |
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Post by Donna on Mar 23, 2013 9:39:22 GMT -5
Looks like they've been skipping history class just like Caroline was skipping geometry. |
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Post by horsecrazy on Mar 23, 2013 10:22:01 GMT -5
If the witches could have stopped Caroline from vamp-speeding away with Bonnie, why couldn't they have stopped her from stabbing the witch working on Bonnie? Was she too intent on what she was doing at the moment and just didn't react quickly enough? She took down Stefan without a problem. Maybe she thought Caroline looked cute and harmless and didn't consider her a threat.
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Post by Donna on Mar 23, 2013 11:27:10 GMT -5
If the witches could have stopped Caroline from vamp-speeding away with Bonnie, why couldn't they have stopped her from stabbing the witch working on Bonnie? Was she too intent on what she was doing at the moment and just didn't react quickly enough? She took down Stefan without a problem. Maybe she thought Caroline looked cute and harmless and didn't consider her a threat. Dunno....I'd have to watch, but Caroline sped up to the backside of the witch with the knife. That one was tied to the others, so they couldn't have stopped her, except maybe to call a warning. Stefan was face to face with the witch and was trying to reason with her. |
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