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Post by tania on Dec 2, 2012 5:41:08 GMT -5
Ahhh guys, I'm so incredibly worried and dreading this episode...someone on twitter messaged me on twitter saying someone who went to set of this ep said a character with 5 letters in their name dies and they've been on tvd ever since season 1....tyler obviously doesn't die but I think Hayley or Klaus could kill Carol. But another person said only tyler and his mom were on set (at night) and they didn't mention klaus or hayley being there. Carol isn't even credited in the ep on wiki but that's not always resourceful or true. I don't think klaus would kill carol but he'd come close to or threaten to. Hayley could kill her, showing how dramatically against she is against caroline's solution. I know TCK have a lot of scenes in that ep and jomo found it rewarding...also Caroline Dries wrote the ep AND jomo loved the episode.She usually gives us and has given us good material for our ship. So if 4x09 ruined KC, I can't imagine all three of them having a lot of scenes and jomo enjoying it. Can someone reassure me instead of adding to my negativity? LOL I usually have a tough time believing spoilers that start with 'someone talked to someone who said....blah blah'. That's how all fake rumors spread. I would consider this a bit more reliable if you knew the actual person who supposedly saw the death. Most importantly, what Donna said: how would a simple visitor who was passing by have such knowledge? I doubt TVD lets people so close to such crucial scenes. We did get a couple of distant pictures of a scene between Tyler and Carol, they were sitting on a bench and having an emotional conversation apparently. But that's it. God, even if someone had seen Carol lying down full of blood (which would never happen anyway), they still wouldn't have known if she's dead or just injured. Idk, this whole thing sounds fishy. Kat, could you point me to that tweet you received?
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Post by aeidail on Dec 2, 2012 9:48:01 GMT -5
No idea what Tyler meant by "the sooner we get rid of this guy [Klaus], the better"...what does he even know about Hayley being secretly involved with Prof. Shane who clearly has his own agenda going on. It seems like they're acting under someone else's orders...and why do they specifically need unsired hybrids? I don't think it has anything to do with killing Klaus but our Hybrid King will figure it out obviously and deliver all the promised "chaos and violence". Think these unsired hybrids might get beheaded at the end of this episode? But this might endanger Prof.Shane...although not neccesarily as he has much to play.
As for Hayley disagreeing with them, I'm assuming that our poor Ty will jeopardize Prof.Shane's plan for the hybrids in some way. Someone's mentioned that Hayley might even go as far as to bite Caroline...yes! very likely but no worries, Klaus will be around. He may even excuse a misinformed Tyler for her sake.
Oh there is the fake break up thing...I don't know but I wouldn't put it past Klaus for not even atleast suspecting that something's amiss. For all we know, he may have manipulated Tyler and Hayley into using his own suspicions (about Tyler cheating) against himself. He was literally nudging Tyler to go ahead and use the ploy.
But it's not like Klaus to go after someone else's girl, is it? I mean in the past, he tried to woo Caroline only when he thought she was "unspoken for" and then when it became clear, he backed off. Or maybe he doesn't mind using their ruse to his advantage...if it meant spending more time with Caroline. Wonder how she'll react, if this is the case...
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Post by Mandy on Dec 2, 2012 10:30:04 GMT -5
No idea what Tyler meant by "the sooner we get rid of this guy [Klaus], the better"...what does he even know about Hayley being secretly involved with Prof. Shane who clearly has his own agenda going on. It seems like they're acting under someone else's orders...and why do they specifically need unsired hybrids? I don't think it has anything to do with killing Klaus but our Hybrid King will figure it out obviously and deliver us all the promised "chaos and violence". Think these unsired hybrids might get beheaded at the end of this episode? But this might endanger Prof.Shane...although not neccesarily as he has much to play. As for Hayley disagreeing with them, I'm assuming that our poor Ty will jeopardize Prof.Shane's plan for the hybrids in some way. Someone's mentioned that Hayley might even go as far as to bite Caroline...yes! very likely but no worries, Klaus will be around. He may even excuse an ignorant Tyler for her sake. Oh there is the fake break up thing...I don't know but I wouldn't put it past Klaus for not even atleast suspecting that something's amiss. For all we know, he may have manipulated Tyler and Hayley into using his own suspicions (about Tyler cheating) against himself. He was literally nudging Tyler to go ahead and use the ploy. But it's not like Klaus to go after someone else's girl, is it? I mean in the past, he tried to woo Caroline only when he thought she was "unspoken for" and then when it became clear, he backed off. Or maybe he doesn't mind using their ruse to his advantage...if it meant spending more time with Caroline. Wonder how she'll react, if this is the case... He has been fairly gentlemanly about the whole wooing of Caroline. The only time he really made a "move" when he knew the two were together and when he healed her and then when he danced with her at the decade dance, but that was only to tell her goodbye. I think we've all agreed that if it it comes out that Klaus DIDN'T know about the fake break-up, that he says "fine, have Tyler" and shuns her, because I think we need to see some Caroline going after Klaus. Even though it will break my Klaroline heart there for a bit..lol As for the spoiler about someone dying...don't worry Kat! I never trust those weird "someone with 5 letters in their name" unless it comes from an actual article. I know that if I ever saw something like that, I would straight up be like "and then I saw Carol who looked like she was dead! What do you guys think?!". Why all the secrecy if you really saw it? I'll admit I'm a little worried about this episode since we are fairly certain Klaus finds out the plan against him. It's got to happen for Klaroline to move forward but I can see it ending on a bad note for us. The whole 1 step forward, 2 steps back kind of thing. I just want to know where Hayley disappears to! One of the recappers I read said that PT's name is in the list of actors at the beginning now, and not under "guest starring". I wonder why'd they do that, if she was leaving 2 episodes from 4x07? How do we know she's left? Just from PT's tweets?
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Dec 2, 2012 11:29:15 GMT -5
Im sorry for panicking guys LOL I was just freaking out because I love KC so much It also doesnt help that 2-3 forwood fans on twitter think he'll kill carol. So taunting LOL but anyways, here's the twitter convo the girl and I had: I started getting worried but im gonna try to stay calm now. I just envision Klaus going after Hayley upon knowing the de-siring plan and trying to hurt Tyler. And is it too soon to say that Caroline may feel a little bad? I mean she was all about Klaus while talking about the hybrids with Stefan (still weird btw, she was so nonchalant about it). he was only like one of the few people she was warm and nice to in that ep LOL. She's falling. I dont expect KC to end off in a good note in this episode but Im happy to still see them have scenes. I still think Hayley could potentially injure someone to show her stance in the plan.
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Post by tania on Dec 2, 2012 11:29:53 GMT -5
I just want to know where Hayley disappears to! One of the recappers I read said that PT's name is in the list of actors at the beginning now, and not under "guest starring". I wonder why'd they do that, if she was leaving 2 episodes from 4x07? How do we know she's left? Just from PT's tweets? I don't think we have any confirmation about Phoebe leaving other than her tweets. But she talked about going back to Australia after they finished 4x09 and has been tweeting from there for a while now. This week she sent a tweet to Claire saying that she misses her and Claire is in Atlanta so... I'm starting to believe that Hayley bites it in this episode . Then again, there are people like Bonnie's mother and Jamie (was that his name?) who have long been gone but they're still alive. Who knows.
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Post by tania on Dec 2, 2012 11:41:14 GMT -5
Ok, if the person who saw the scene said that it was Carol dying, why did your friend imply that it could be Tyler at first? No offense to her of course, it just seems weird. I read too much Agatha Christie as a kid.Also, if someone was close enough to see the dead person, wouldn't they have also seen who killed her?
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Dec 2, 2012 11:51:42 GMT -5
Ok, if the person who saw the scene said that it was Carol dying, why did your friend imply that it could be Tyler at first? No offense to her of course, it just seems weird. I read too much Agatha Christie as a kid.Also, if someone was close enough to see the dead person, wouldn't they have also seen who killed her? Thats what I dont get...its probably fake then. Unless I see it in a article, Im not believing it anymore. This isnt even massive speculation. More people think Hayley will bite the dust. Also, you're right about the person saying it could be tyler too. LOL she didnt even mention seeing Klaus or Hayley. If she had seen him, it would have been said. But the person only claimed to see Hayley and Tyler. Thanks for the reassurance guys....i love you LOL ;D
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Post by cashima on Dec 2, 2012 12:35:26 GMT -5
I'll admit I'm a little worried about this episode since we are fairly certain Klaus finds out the plan against him. It's got to happen for Klaroline to move forward but I can see it ending on a bad note for us. The whole 1 step forward, 2 steps back kind of thing. I just want to know where Hayley disappears to! One of the recappers I read said that PT's name is in the list of actors at the beginning now, and not under "guest starring". I wonder why'd they do that, if she was leaving 2 episodes from 4x07? How do we know she's left? Just from PT's tweets? They were talking nonsense. She's still only guest starring and listed that way. I desperately want Klaus to find out. I can't stand him not knowing and being played this way. I don't want him tricked like that any longer. He's opened his little dark heart to Caroline and it's about to get a beating. I want him to be angry and let her see that she hurt him. I wonder if one flirty episode is enough for Caroline to have regrets.
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Post by SireMe on Dec 2, 2012 16:57:28 GMT -5
There's a rumor floating around tumblr about Kol undaggering Rebekah in this episode?
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Post by tania on Dec 2, 2012 17:13:13 GMT -5
There's a rumor floating around tumblr about Kol undaggering Rebekah in this episode? Fake. A girl on tumblr felt like trolling the fandom. ;D She also credited CNN as her source. LOLMayby Kol will undager Rebekah. But there are no spoilers pointing to that so far.
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Post by SireMe on Dec 2, 2012 17:22:18 GMT -5
Awww drats. Stupid girl!
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Post by KStewFTW on Dec 2, 2012 18:34:25 GMT -5
I can definitely see our little KC hearts being broken in this episode (because I have a feeling Klaus' will be) but I'm not worried about it. The fact that they'll still be having scenes in 4x13 and Joseph was very happy about it and expressed how much he LOVED it, is very reassuring to me. Maybe this time, like Mandy said, Klaus will show Caroline how hurt he is and really get angry with her for reals. I do want to see her seek him out for once, a chase that could perhaps be very rewarding for him (and us) in 4x13 As for that 5-letter-name person's death... I'm gonna put it on the BS list for now, until there's further info.
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Post by Mandy on Dec 2, 2012 18:41:52 GMT -5
I've noticed a few ant-klaroline fans have really taken off with the whole "Klaus kills Carol" thing..lol. I don't know, I just don't see that happening.
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Post by Mandy on Dec 2, 2012 18:45:36 GMT -5
I can definitely see our little KC hearts being broken in this episode (because I have a feeling Klaus' will be) but I'm not worried about it. The fact that they'll still be having scenes in 4x13 and Joseph was very happy about it and expressed how much he LOVED it, is very reassuring to me. Maybe this time, like Mandy said, Klaus will show Caroline how hurt he is and really get angry with her for reals. I do want to see her seek him out for once, a chase that could perhaps be very rewarding for him (and us) in 4x13 As for that 5-letter-name person's death... I'm gonna put it on the BS list for now, until there's further info. Yes, this! I worry for this episode because it's going to make my Klaus loving heart sad, but I don't really worry what it will do to Klaroline. We HAVE to have the fake break-up falling out for Caroline to realize her feelings. I still say a KC kiss before the finale.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Dec 2, 2012 18:48:27 GMT -5
Im officially putting that death thing on the BS list as well. ;D yay! So...will hayley intiate her plan the same time Tyler is? Will Klaus find out about both plans at once? Im so confused LOL. So since Klaus, Stefan, and Caroline really want the cure to be found, is it now safe to say Klefaroline will team up? No? LOL
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