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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 28, 2012 17:34:44 GMT -5
Probs Hayley. I sooo hope its Klaus LOL
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Post by Mandy on Nov 28, 2012 18:07:12 GMT -5
It seems that Caroline is still plotting against Klaus with the others, they are in a place a little lugubrious so I guess they are preparing a bad plan Yeah, looks like they're meeting in an alley way or something. Annoying, but at least we know Stefan and Caroline are against whatever plan Hayley and Tyler are trying to put into motion. I just want to know what Caroline wants to do instead. Fingers crossed it actually benefits Klaus. And toes crossed that BOTH Hayley and Tyler disagree because I need TC to be on the outs when Hayley either dies or leaves.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 28, 2012 18:41:19 GMT -5
@mandy: THIS^ the fact that steroline are not cool with Tayley's plan is comforting to me and we know Stefan is still working with Klaus. I don't think Stefan would want him in danger then, you know? And they're right beside the grill btw. I recognize the stairs. LOL if klaus is there at the grill, they're [censored]ed and I still believe Tyler could be leaving after 4x09 due to MT not filming for a while. all in all, I still have hope for my bbys. Remember, 4x13 sounds promising for us
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Post by alex88 on Nov 28, 2012 18:42:16 GMT -5
It seems that Caroline is still plotting against Klaus with the others, they are in a place a little lugubrious so I guess they are preparing a bad plan this makes me so sad
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Post by Donna on Nov 28, 2012 19:06:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I think that's the back entrance to the grill. The stairs are the ones Finn burned on.
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Post by KlausNCaroline on Nov 28, 2012 19:23:54 GMT -5
@mandy: THIS^ the fact that steroline are not cool with Tayley's plan is comforting to me and we know Stefan is still working with Klaus. I don't think Stefan would want him in danger then, you know? And they're right beside the grill btw. I recognize the stairs. LOL if klaus is there at the grill, they're [censored]ed and I still believe Tyler could be leaving after 4x09 due to MT not filming for a while. all in all, I still have hope for my bbys. Remember, 4x13 sounds promising for us I am holding onto the fact that Stefan AND Caroline are not cool with the plan
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Post by alex88 on Nov 28, 2012 19:37:01 GMT -5
you know what I would like to know? If Klaus is really in the episode....he is mentioned, but that doesn´t mean that he is there....and I don´t remember any spoilers that would confirm that he is there...there were just photos of Candice and MT from the set...or did I miss something?
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Post by Mandy on Nov 28, 2012 19:46:00 GMT -5
you know what I would like to know? If Klaus is really in the episode....he is mentioned, but that doesn´t mean that he is there....and I don´t remember any spoilers that would confirm that he is there...there were just photos of Candice and MT from the set...or did I miss something? He's definitely in the episode. The synopsis says something like how Klaus finds out about something that ends in violence. He's got to be there to cause the violence. The only reason they had him off in Italy on the phone in episode 5 (so dumb) was because they wanted us to see him find the sword. Hopefully he'll be in the promo. He's hardly ever in them and it drives me crazy!
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 28, 2012 21:33:58 GMT -5
He's in the ep...he's kinda gotta be there for the good klarowood scenes. lol anyone who thinks he isn't in the ep is crazy
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Post by tania on Nov 29, 2012 7:28:06 GMT -5
I'm not overly optimistic about Stefan and Caroline's disagreement with Tyler's plan. It is entirely possible that it has nothing to do with Klaus, at least in a positive way. Mayby they think the plan is too dangerous and Tyler shouldn't risk his life like that. Or they don't want anyone to get hurt if/when Klaus finds out. Or this has something to do with Elena like always. As for Tyler's emotional "heart to heart" with his mother...have these two ever had an emotional scene before? God, this hero!Tyler storyline gets more forced every passing minute. Just my opinion, of course. And I don't even hate Tyler for the most part, but they either don't know what to do with him (like in season 3) or they try too hard, with sloppy storytelling on top (like they do this season). I wonder if Tyler fans are satisfied with this arc.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 29, 2012 7:53:48 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I still think that if caroline and maybe stefan are concerned for tyler's safety, then hayley wouldn't dramatically disagree, you know? I just have thiis nagging feeling that whatever steroline think, doesn't benefit tyler OR hayley. Will it include klaus? Don't know. I just have this feeling though.
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Post by Mandy on Nov 29, 2012 11:29:58 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I still think that if caroline and maybe stefan are concerned for tyler's safety, then hayley wouldn't dramatically disagree, you know? I just have thiis nagging feeling that whatever steroline think, doesn't benefit tyler OR hayley. Will it include klaus? Don't know. I just have this feeling though. Yeah. Hayley not agreeing with it confuses me. I could see Caroline not agreeing because it puts Tyler in danger. Stefan I'm more leaning toward keeping Klaus safe since he's crucial to the cure arc. But Hayley? Either she's so into the cause that she doesn't care about Tyler's safety (which could suck since that would kind of end the Tayley thing. I don't ship them since I'm not a Tyler fan, but I'll ship them enough if it keeps Tyler occupied ) or both she AND Tyler are against Caroline's plan. I agree with Tania on the Tyler story. It's just too much for his character, in my opinion. I think they tried to make him more important when they turned him into a hybrid, but that didn't seem to work either. I don't know. I think maybe he'd be better outside of the Scooby gang. Which they might be doing, since he's all about pack now. *shrug*
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Post by KStewFTW on Nov 30, 2012 14:55:20 GMT -5
Hayley does seem to care about Tyler but the fact that she's working with Professor Shane on a greater plan makes me think the reason she disagrees is because she wants this plan to move forward. It could be that Stefan and Caroline are just getting in the way of whatever she has to do and that's why she disagrees with them, Tyler's safety aside and all.
Either way, I do want to see Caroline and Tyler really being on completely opposite sides. I thought of this episode when Hayley said in 4x07 "when it all goes down", would it be too soon for them to execute whatever plan they have?
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Dec 2, 2012 0:49:21 GMT -5
Ahhh guys, I'm so incredibly worried and dreading this episode...someone on twitter messaged me on twitter saying someone who went to set of this ep said a character with 5 letters in their name dies and they've been on tvd ever since season 1....tyler obviously doesn't die but I think Hayley or Klaus could kill Carol. But another person said only tyler and his mom were on set (at night) and they didn't mention klaus or hayley being there. Carol isn't even credited in the ep on wiki but that's not always resourceful or true. I don't think klaus would kill carol but he'd come close to or threaten to. Hayley could kill her, showing how dramatically against she is against caroline's solution. I know TCK have a lot of scenes in that ep and jomo found it rewarding...also Caroline Dries wrote the ep AND jomo loved the episode.She usually gives us and has given us good material for our ship. So if 4x09 ruined KC, I can't imagine all three of them having a lot of scenes and jomo enjoying it. Can someone reassure me instead of adding to my negativity? LOL
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Post by Donna on Dec 2, 2012 4:48:31 GMT -5
Would a visitor to the set be so knowledgeable about someone dying? I thought they usually kept gawkers far away? Never been there, but I've read on Twitter they usually kept people away with barricades, etc. The only BTS from people that aren't crew or cast are usually far away or when the actors come out to greet people. I could be wrong though. And even if he or she did see someone injured how does she know they die? And did she or he say Klaus definitely caused it? Boy, there aren't many characters that I can think of that would have 5 letters. Carol, Elena, and Damon. But we know no one from the main triangle would die. If you count his last name Shane would. I'm not sure of all the hybrids names or the new hunter or friend of Shane's that we have yet to see. Bonnie's dad's name only has 4 letters. Jamie?
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