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Post by KlausNCaroline on Sept 20, 2012 8:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by sourwolf on Sept 20, 2012 12:18:25 GMT -5
I feel bad for Rebekah. She's going to have a really hard time when the show comes back. No place to live and everyone is going to hate her for what happened to Elena. That's not going to be easy for girl who just wants to have a loving family and not be lonely.
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Post by missielynne on Sept 20, 2012 13:03:11 GMT -5
I don't fault rebekah for what she did at all and I think it's entirely stupid that the writers are making her own family turn against her because of what happened to Elena when Elena's already got all of team MF on her side. Rebekah's got no one to turn to and she did what to me is a perfectly natural thing. She loves her family, and they are showing that they really don't love her back. It's story points like this that drive me toward her character instead of away from her character. Her sadness at not being loved is so genuine and touching that you would have to be lacking empathy to at least not understand why she did what she did (even if you don't condone it.)
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Post by sourwolf on Sept 20, 2012 13:14:11 GMT -5
I don't fault rebekah for what she did at all and I think it's entirely stupid that the writers are making her own family turn against her because of what happened to Elena when Elena's already got all of team MF on her side. Rebekah's got no one to turn to and she did what to me is a perfectly natural thing. She loves her family, and they are showing that they really don't love her back. It's story points like this that drive me toward her character instead of away from her character. Her sadness at not being loved is so genuine and touching that you would have to be lacking empathy to at least not understand why she did what she did (even if you don't condone it.) I don't agree that her siblings don't love her. Rebekah's family is very dysfunctional because the entire family allows their anger, pride, and sense of betrayal to take first priority over maintaining a happy and loving family. This seems to be the typical relationship vampires have with their families on TVD since the Salvatores are the only other example of a vampire family and they too can easily turn on each other when one of them feels betrayed. Rebekah explained it best in Ordinary People. Vampires are very emotional (far more so than humans) which can equal some pretty disastrous relationships with people they love. But even with all the magnified anger they may feel for family members or a significant other they still can't easily let go of those relationships because nobody wants to spend eternity alone.
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Post by missielynne on Sept 20, 2012 15:00:34 GMT -5
Rebekah is especially a character that can't be called "good" or "bad". Cause she does bad things, but not purely out of malice, you know? But because she hasn't really had a good example of compassion in her life or just generally someone to make her feel loved, so she's just a tragic character.
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Post by sourwolf on Sept 20, 2012 15:12:36 GMT -5
Rebekah is especially a character that can't be called "good" or "bad". Cause she does bad things, but not purely out of malice, you know? But because she hasn't really had a good example of compassion in her life or just generally someone to make her feel loved, so she's just a tragic character. I see Rebekah as a mixture of Damon and Klaus. She's very impulsive and lashes out at people when she's angry, but at the same time wants to form genuine connections with people and be included in a "family" because she don't like being alone.
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Post by twilightdew on Oct 1, 2012 19:28:53 GMT -5
I see Rebekah as a mixture of Damon and Klaus. She's very impulsive and lashes out at people when she's angry, but at the same time wants to form genuine connections with people and be included in a "family" because she don't like being alone. Rebekah is very emotional and I think she does have a lot of insecurities. She feared her father, her mother wants to kill her, and her brother stakes her whenever she disappoints him. She really hasn't had many opportunities to just relax, be happy, and form true, loving connections with others. I think that when she told her brother that she didn't want to run anymore, that was very significant. What's the point of living forever if you aren't really living, enjoying life? It's a shame that Rebekah doesn't have a female friend or sister that she can confide in or hang out with. Deep down I think she is jealous that Elena, Bonnie, and Caroline have that. (Heck, I'm jealous of that myself.)
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Post by cashima on Oct 2, 2012 18:09:27 GMT -5
Rebekah's family is very dysfunctional because the entire family allows their anger, pride, and sense of betrayal to take first priority over maintaining a happy and loving family. This seems to be the typical relationship vampires have with their families on TVD since the Salvatores are the only other example of a vampire family and they too can easily turn on each other when one of them feels betrayed. Rebekah explained it best in Ordinary People. Vampires are very emotional (far more so than humans) which can equal some pretty disastrous relationships with people they love. But even with all the magnified anger they may feel for family members or a significant other they still can't easily let go of those relationships because nobody wants to spend eternity alone. That's a very good analysis of their emotional status. I've been so unhappy with Rebekah turning on Klaus when Mikael is brought in to kill him, but she's being emotional. She can't think straight in moments of extreme anger and hurt. At the end of the day these people love each other. You can see Rebekah's and Elijah's love for each other and Klaus when they embrace in 3x22. This whole family is in need of some serious counselling! I'm worried about Rebekah's future on the show becasue Team MF is so antagonistic. She deserves some happiness. I don't believe she's been unhappy for the last 900 years (she missed 90 in the coffin), but Klaus is incapable of showing his love for her, of making her feel valued, because he himself doesn't feel loved. It's what she needs to feel and hear. Ripper Stefan was hardly a Romeo. Rebekah needs some romance in her life.
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Post by sourwolf on Oct 9, 2012 14:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by sourwolf on Oct 9, 2012 20:37:24 GMT -5
Once Stefan stole the coffins their reason for wanting the Originals and specifically Klaus dead was solely about revenge for Stefan. Stefan admitted this to everyone and they all backed him up instead of saying he was being a selfish jerk for putting his desire for revenge over the safety of all the people around him. They could have put all this behind them had they just let Klaus have his family so his siblings could deal with him. Obviously they can't exactly reason with Klaus because the guy will do whatever he wants when he wants, but had any of them bothered to approach Elijah and ask him to keep his brother under control he would have absolutely done just that because he likes Elena. But of course nobody on Team MF bothered to consider any of this because they prefer the "act now, think later" approach. Not sure if this is considered a spoiler, so I'll just put it in a spoiler tag In Candice's most recent interview she said something about how the gang is acknowledging that Klaus has helped them out on a number of occasions and she feels they are more on an even playing field now. So, I'm thinking...HOPING...that the whole 'yay! Let's kill the Originals!" story line is completely dropped this season. The MF gang has gotten WAY to kill happy here recently. I will say that if the Originals are killed this year then I am done with the show. They are the reason I am watching. I do wish Rebekah could have a friend this year. NOT Elena, though. She has enough people falling all over themselves for her. Oh yay! I hope that happens. I'm tired of watching the "heroes'" (and I use that term very loosely) attempt after attempt to kill the Originals. It's time for the show to move onto something else. Rebekah really does need a friend. I have so much sympathy for her because you can tell how lonely she feels. She desperately wants to have a typical high school experience to feel like a normal teenager for a short time but that dream is failing miserably for her. I've been keeping my fingers crossed for Caroline and Rebekah to become friends. IMO, a friendship between them makes more sense than Caroline and Elena being friends. Caroline has a lopsided friendship with Elena that is entirely in Elena's favor and most of the time I don't think Elena really understands Caroline. Rebekah would be able to understand Caroline more because they have similar personalities.
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Post by SireMe on Oct 9, 2012 20:45:11 GMT -5
I would personally love to see Team Barbie become friends. It'd be an interesting dynamic and I think they are similar in personality. Might clash at times, but that makes it fun.
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Post by sourwolf on Oct 9, 2012 20:55:42 GMT -5
I would personally love to see Team Barbie become friends. It'd be an interesting dynamic and I think they are similar in personality. Might clash at times, but that makes it fun. It would also be interesting to see how a friendship between Caroline and Rebekah would affect Rebekah's relationship with Klaus. He can be really hard on her a lot. I'd love to see Caroline correct Klaus on his behavior towards his baby sister. He's too unappreciative of his sister and how she's tried to stand by him when his other siblings were against him.
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Post by cashima on Oct 10, 2012 8:42:28 GMT -5
Once Stefan stole the coffins their reason for wanting the Originals and specifically Klaus dead was solely about revenge for Stefan. Stefan admitted this to everyone and they all backed him up instead of saying he was being a selfish jerk for putting his desire for revenge over the safety of all the people around him. They could have put all this behind them had they just let Klaus have his family so his siblings could deal with him. Obviously they can't exactly reason with Klaus because the guy will do whatever he wants when he wants, but had any of them bothered to approach Elijah and ask him to keep his brother under control he would have absolutely done just that because he likes Elena. IA that it was revenge for Stefan and Damon. As for the rest, it seemed like they wanted to kill Klaus for the sake of killing him - or maybe they just couldn't *think again* and realise their goal back from season 2 wasn't important anymore. Team MF has a very black/white view of the world. I've been keeping my fingers crossed for Caroline and Rebekah to become friends. IMO, a friendship between them makes more sense than Caroline and Elena being friends. Caroline has a lopsided friendship with Elena that is entirely in Elena's favor and most of the time I don't think Elena really understands Caroline. Rebekah would be able to understand Caroline more because they have similar personalities. Definitely not Elena. What I like about Elena is that she can feel with other people. She understood Rebekah's loneliness and Klaus' need for a backup family. But she will always judge both of them as morally. She's not the kind of person to embrace someone and let them grow in their own time. It's all or nothing for her. She has already decided Elijah is the only one worth saving in that family. IDK whether Rebekah could befriend Caroline because of Klaus. She's been his special girl all their lives and Rebekah is the jealous type. I don't see them getting really close (unless they bond over being [censored]ed off at Klaus ), but they could establish a respectful truce.
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Post by twilightdew on Oct 12, 2012 12:03:05 GMT -5
I really feel sorry for Rebekah and I was touched by her reaction to Stefan and Elena's conversation as Elena was dying. She may come across as tough and uncaring but I think a lot of that is due to her putting up walls to protect herself.
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Post by tania on Oct 18, 2012 10:47:29 GMT -5
"I tried to kill you. But you survived! So now we can flirt again!"Em, yeah, Matt survived. Except, you know, there's that little detail that Elena did not survive. Elena, the girl Matt is still in love with. I loooove Rebekah, but can we please not forget that so soon? I completely understand why she did what she did and I was actually Team Rebekah when she led that car off the bridge (I mean, Klaus was dead, Rebekah and myself were both mad ). But how do they think it's possible for Matt to show any kind of affection for her so soon after the tragic event? And I hate how people keep saying that Rebekah deserves better treatment by the Mystic Falls gang. Em, no. She just killed everyone's favorite person in the world. I heart Rebekah, but you can't realistically expect anyone in team MF to want to be friends with her right now. I hope Zach was trolling with this.
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