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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 9, 2012 16:43:50 GMT -5
On tumblr: Reminder that when Caroline overheard Klaus talking to Tyler on the phone, she believed what he was saying without even a shadow of a doubt.Yet, she was quick to believe that Tyler was lying. True love is built on mutual trust. If Tyler can’t trust Caroline not to swept off her feet by Klaus, and Caroline can’t trust Tyler not to jump Hayley….then maybe their love isn’t everything it’s made out to be?
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Post by sourwolf on Nov 10, 2012 0:51:39 GMT -5
On tumblr: Reminder that when Caroline overheard Klaus talking to Tyler on the phone, she believed what he was saying without even a shadow of a doubt.Yet, she was quick to believe that Tyler was lying. True love is built on mutual trust. If Tyler can’t trust Caroline not to swept off her feet by Klaus, and Caroline can’t trust Tyler not to jump Hayley….then maybe their love isn’t everything it’s made out to be? ouch. About the bolded part, Caroline believed what Klaus was saying because what she was witnessing herself between Tyler and Hayley before she overheard that conversation confirmed her own suspicions that her boyfriend had cheated on her.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 10, 2012 8:35:55 GMT -5
About the bolded part, Caroline believed what Klaus was saying because what she was witnessing herself between Tyler and Hayley before she overheard that conversation confirmed her own suspicions that her boyfriend had cheated on her. Good point. She automatically assumed that because Tyler was being stand-offish. I dont think she believed Klaus on purpose. She was just scared.
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Post by sourwolf on Nov 10, 2012 13:43:37 GMT -5
About the bolded part, Caroline believed what Klaus was saying because what she was witnessing herself between Tyler and Hayley before she overheard that conversation confirmed her own suspicions that her boyfriend had cheated on her. Good point. She automatically assumed that because Tyler was being stand-offish. I dont think she believed Klaus on purpose. She was just scared. Yeah, I don't like that tumblr quote because it makes Caroline sound like a disloyal girlfriend when really Tyler wasn't giving her any reasons not to believe what she overheard Klaus saying to him. If he hadn't been acting so stand-offish prior to that phone call and had actually taken the time to explain who Hayley was and why she was there then Caroline wouldn't have believed a word Klaus was saying. It's 100% Tyler's fault that she doesn't trust him. If you act like you have something to hide then people are going to believe you're hiding something.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 10, 2012 13:56:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like that tumblr quote because it makes Caroline sound like a disloyal girlfriend when really Tyler wasn't giving her any reasons not to believe what she overheard Klaus saying to him. If he hadn't been acting so stand-offish prior to that phone call and had actually taken the time to explain who Hayley was and why she was there then Caroline wouldn't have believed a word Klaus was saying. It's 100% Tyler's fault that she doesn't trust him. If you act like you have something to hide then people are going to believe you're hiding something. Exactly. Caroline did nothing wrong and she had every right to get mad. Yet he did not say sorry. I get that he has his own agenda, but atleast reassure your girlfriend!
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Post by sourwolf on Nov 10, 2012 14:07:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like that tumblr quote because it makes Caroline sound like a disloyal girlfriend when really Tyler wasn't giving her any reasons not to believe what she overheard Klaus saying to him. If he hadn't been acting so stand-offish prior to that phone call and had actually taken the time to explain who Hayley was and why she was there then Caroline wouldn't have believed a word Klaus was saying. It's 100% Tyler's fault that she doesn't trust him. If you act like you have something to hide then people are going to believe you're hiding something. Exactly. Caroline did nothing wrong and she had every right to get mad. Yet he did not say sorry. I get that he has his own agenda, but atleast reassure your girlfriend! That's what bothers me most about this situation. Based on that one episode you would have thought Hayley was Tyler's girlfriend, not Caroline. He spent that entire episode catering to what his new "friend's" needs and completely ignored his GIRLFRIEND who was being treated as an outsider that had no right to be in his house. If I were Caroline, I would have told Tyler to go ahead and keep hugging his "friend" he never told me about while I go home and rethink whether he's worth my time anymore.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 10, 2012 15:49:56 GMT -5
That's what bothers me most about this situation. Based on that one episode you would have thought Hayley was Tyler's girlfriend, not Caroline. He spent that entire episode catering to what his new "friend's" needs and completely ignored his GIRLFRIEND who was being treated as an outsider that had no right to be in his house. If I were Caroline, I would have told Tyler to go ahead and keep hugging his "friend" he never told me about while I go home and rethink whether he's worth my time anymore. ughhhhhhhh. Im getting angry feels all over again. I really hope she does not get further emotionally manipulated. Just the fact that he comforted his so called "friend" over Caroline was making me fume. I was litterally yelling at my tv and face palming! I saw this theory that Tyler didnt wanna tell Caroline the truth because she'd go running to Klaus. But thats if Tyler lied. I think he told the truth; with the exception of him hiding something..
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Post by sourwolf on Nov 10, 2012 16:07:11 GMT -5
That's what bothers me most about this situation. Based on that one episode you would have thought Hayley was Tyler's girlfriend, not Caroline. He spent that entire episode catering to what his new "friend's" needs and completely ignored his GIRLFRIEND who was being treated as an outsider that had no right to be in his house. If I were Caroline, I would have told Tyler to go ahead and keep hugging his "friend" he never told me about while I go home and rethink whether he's worth my time anymore. ughhhhhhhh. Im getting angry feels all over again. I really hope she does not get further emotionally manipulated. Just the fact that he comforted his so called "friend" over Caroline was making me fume. I was litterally yelling at my tv and face palming! I saw this theory that Tyler didnt wanna tell Caroline the truth because she'd go running to Klaus. But thats if Tyler lied. I think he told the truth; with the exception of him hiding something.. I knew that was going to be excuse for some people, that Caroline couldn't be "trusted" to not tell Klaus about Tyler's plan. But what has she done that could give Tyler the idea that she would side with Klaus on this? In season 3 Caroline was helping her friends try to KILL Klaus and even threw a mini party when they had him dessicated. Tyler doesn't have a reason not to trust Caroline on this. She's already proven that when it comes to master plans against Klaus, she will side with her friends because she's a loyal person to those that she loves. Tyler told the truth about the reason Hayley is there, but he's definitely not being totally honest with Caroline. I think there are feelings between him and Hayley. If there wasn't he wouldn't have felt the need to lie to both girls. So while he would be correct in saying he has not cheated on Caroline, his "friendship" with Hayley is not entirely innocent.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 10, 2012 16:13:35 GMT -5
I knew that was going to be excuse for some people, that Caroline couldn't be "trusted" to not tell Klaus about Tyler's plan. But what has she done that could give Tyler the idea that she would side with Klaus on this? In season 3 Caroline was helping her friends try to KILL Klaus and even threw a mini party when they had him dessicated. Tyler doesn't have a reason not to trust Caroline on this. She's already proven that when it comes to master plans against Klaus, she will side with her friends because she's a loyal person to those that she loves. Tyler told the truth about the reason Hayley is there, but he's definitely not being totally honest with Caroline. I think there are feelings between him and Hayley. If there wasn't he wouldn't have felt the need to lie to both girls. So while he would be correct in saying he has not cheated on Caroline, his "friendship" with Hayley is not entirely innocent. Hayley and Tyler can run off for all I care while Caroline travels with Klaus
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Post by sourwolf on Nov 10, 2012 16:24:51 GMT -5
I knew that was going to be excuse for some people, that Caroline couldn't be "trusted" to not tell Klaus about Tyler's plan. But what has she done that could give Tyler the idea that she would side with Klaus on this? In season 3 Caroline was helping her friends try to KILL Klaus and even threw a mini party when they had him dessicated. Tyler doesn't have a reason not to trust Caroline on this. She's already proven that when it comes to master plans against Klaus, she will side with her friends because she's a loyal person to those that she loves. Tyler told the truth about the reason Hayley is there, but he's definitely not being totally honest with Caroline. I think there are feelings between him and Hayley. If there wasn't he wouldn't have felt the need to lie to both girls. So while he would be correct in saying he has not cheated on Caroline, his "friendship" with Hayley is not entirely innocent. Hayley and Tyler can run off for all I care while Caroline travels with Klaus Well said. I'm all for this. ;D
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 10, 2012 16:27:14 GMT -5
Well said. I'm all for this. ;D ;D I think at some point, Hayley will pick up on Caroline's attraction to Klaus and Klaus's deep feelings for her. Based on this episode, she comes off as a nosey woman,
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Post by sourwolf on Nov 10, 2012 16:36:07 GMT -5
Well said. I'm all for this. ;D ;D I think at some point, Hayley will pick up on Caroline's attraction to Klaus and Klaus's deep feelings for her. Based on this episode, she comes off as a nosey woman, I think you're right about that. And she'll use that to her advantage so can have Tyler all to herself.
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Post by SireMe on Nov 10, 2012 16:49:28 GMT -5
Psh. Tayley Shmayley. Can we discuss how Jeremy has an actual storyline this season? Or maybe it'll just be dropped just like that whole ghost thing.
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Nov 10, 2012 17:06:01 GMT -5
I really LOVE his storyline. I can't wait to see Klefan guide him
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Post by tania on Nov 10, 2012 18:17:10 GMT -5
Psh. Tayley Shmayley. Can we discuss how Jeremy has an actual storyline this season? Or maybe it'll just be dropped just like that whole ghost thing. I kind of get the feeling that after season 3 ended, Julie and co. sit back and thought about all the secondary characters that had no storyline in it and are now trying to make up for that: Jeremy has gotten a storyline, Tyler is getting a storyline, Bonnie seems to also be getting a storyline and none for Matthew Donovan. I like that they're trying to do that, even if I don't like some of these new plots *cough*hybrid rebellion*cough*. Jeremy's potential hunter storyline is 10x more interesting to me than the ghost thing. DO NOT WANT guest star ghosts popping up on my screen every Thursday.
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