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Post by Donna on Feb 15, 2013 17:40:22 GMT -5
Was Jeremy wearing his ring? I mean, that's the only thing I could think of during his scene. He's a supernatural creature how that he is "one of the five" and I don't think the ring will protect him anymore. Tried adding a spoiler about the promo and the spoiler feature isn't working for me. |
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Post by Donna on Feb 15, 2013 23:21:17 GMT -5
I wonder why Vaughn said that his tattoo hadn't grown much despite killing vamps since his youth and it all of a sudden completed "3 days ago". did so many vamps die that it completed Jeremy's tattoo and other hunters?
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Post by Mandy on Feb 15, 2013 23:59:25 GMT -5
I wonder why Vaughn said that his tattoo hadn't grown much despite killing vamps since his youth and it all of a sudden completed "3 days ago". did so many vamps die that it completed Jeremy's tattoo and other hunters? My theory is that all the hunters were in it for one goal - find silas, cure him, kill him. So, if one completed their mark, they all did so that they could make their way to Silas. I also think having Vaughn mention that he'd never come close to completing it was supposed to show that Jeremy HAD to kill kol or he would have been killing vamps his whole life. Which fine, I could have understand more if they played it like "yes, this sucks, but oh well". Instead they played it off like it was self defense and it was either them or him, which is not the case. That's why I still shake my head every time I think about it. I have Klaus-size grudges I guess. Can I mention again how much I love Vaughn? I have no idea how long he's supposed to be around for, but can it be forever? Him and damon had nice chemistry. His one liners with him actually made me laugh and I usually don't find Damon funny at all. |
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Post by Kafen on Feb 16, 2013 0:17:16 GMT -5
I wonder why Vaughn said that his tattoo hadn't grown much despite killing vamps since his youth and it all of a sudden completed "3 days ago". did so many vamps die that it completed Jeremy's tattoo and other hunters? My theory is that all the hunters were in it for one goal - find silas, cure him, kill him. So, if one completed their mark, they all did so that they could make their way to Silas. I also think having Vaughn mention that he'd never come close to completing it was supposed to show that Jeremy HAD to kill kol or he would have been killing vamps his whole life. Which fine, I could have understand more if they played it like "yes, this sucks, but oh well". Instead they played it off like it was self defense and it was either them or him, which is not the case. That's why I still shake my head every time I think about it. I have Klaus-size grudges I guess. Can I mention again how much I love Vaughn? I have no idea how long he's supposed to be around for, but can it be forever? Him and damon had nice chemistry. His one liners with him actually made me laugh and I usually don't find Damon funny at all. Where did our gorgeously accented hunter run off to? I think I have a thing for accents...  Who doesn't? I was wondering that... :/ I'd really like to listen to him some more xD Just saying, I really hope he kills Silas, I'm just on his side. Question: Will Silas get the hunters curse? If apparently he's a half vampire witch thing, he might. That and this particular Bennett witch seems to be very thorough. Must be that if Silas kills one of her hunters, she'd at least make his life as miserable as she can. AND - (something that doesn't add up) If he was frozen in stone for thousands of years, he couldn't have taken the cure? We were told that Quetsia (sp?) kept him there so that he'd want to take it, but couldn't do the actual situation could he.... Elena + MF gang really need to understand that when someone retaliates after you've planned their death, it is NOT considered self defense. Ever. You're fair game. |
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Post by vampdiaries808 on Feb 16, 2013 0:23:05 GMT -5
Mandy, I really digged Vaughn's interaction with Damon too. Great chemistry indeed. Couldnt decide if his accent was scotish or irish though. He is a WAY better actor and character than Alex. (Bekah's ex)
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Post by Mandy on Feb 16, 2013 0:37:17 GMT -5
My theory is that all the hunters were in it for one goal - find silas, cure him, kill him. So, if one completed their mark, they all did so that they could make their way to Silas. I also think having Vaughn mention that he'd never come close to completing it was supposed to show that Jeremy HAD to kill kol or he would have been killing vamps his whole life. Which fine, I could have understand more if they played it like "yes, this sucks, but oh well". Instead they played it off like it was self defense and it was either them or him, which is not the case. That's why I still shake my head every time I think about it. I have Klaus-size grudges I guess. Can I mention again how much I love Vaughn? I have no idea how long he's supposed to be around for, but can it be forever? Him and damon had nice chemistry. His one liners with him actually made me laugh and I usually don't find Damon funny at all. Where did our gorgeously accented hunter run off to? I think I have a thing for accents... Who doesn't? I was wondering that... :/ I'd really like to listen to him some more xD Just saying, I really hope he kills Silas, I'm just on his side. Question: Will Silas get the hunters curse? If apparently he's a half vampire witch thing, he might. That and this particular Bennett witch seems to be very thorough. Must be that if Silas kills one of her hunters, she'd at least make his life as miserable as she can. AND - (something that doesn't add up) If he was frozen in stone for thousands of years, he couldn't have taken the cure? We were told that Quetsia (sp?) kept him there so that he'd want to take it, but couldn't do the actual situation could he.... Elena + MF gang really need to understand that when someone retaliates after you've planned their death, it is NOT considered self defense. Ever. You're fair game.The bolded part - YES. It's just been a vicious cycle of that since early/mid season 3. They try to kill Klaus, it doesn't work and he comes after them, they try to kill klaus because he's coming after them. Repeat. I'm anxious to see how they interact with klaus now that Silas is out. |
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Post by KStewFTW on Feb 16, 2013 2:48:48 GMT -5
Was Jeremy wearing his ring? I mean, that's the only thing I could think of during his scene. He's a supernatural creature how that he is "one of the five" and I don't think the ring will protect him anymore. Tried adding a spoiler about the promo and the spoiler feature isn't working for me. I saw people wondering if the ring would protect Jeremy but I'm with you on this Donna. As soon as Jeremy became one of The Five, he also became a supernatural being so the ring would be useless to him. I'm guessing that's why Stefan says this to Damon in the promo. |
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Post by ladyjscarlett on Feb 16, 2013 12:46:25 GMT -5
I felt a little robbed of episode 14. First, I thought that the freak-out scene from klaroline was going to be Caroline waking up in Klaus' arms. Nope, cut right into her being awake and off to change her wardrobe. Robbed.
Second, poor Bonnie. Beremy is gone, the crack ship Kennett is gone and Jamie was a no way, who are we going to ship you with now? Plus, Matt is your only human friend left and he works a lot.
Third, Jeremy. Sad that he killed Kol, but sadder that he went on this quest in the first place. The Cure = Death. To Elena, quoting Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, "Death is your gift."
Fourth, poor Elena. Lost your connection, your going to go dark- and it is going to turn Damon on a bit. No one to carry on the Gilbert name.
Fifth, Forwood. I loved the song at the end. But seriously writers? You gave them their best scene in two years and it ends like this.... And a bunch of Forwood fans come out of nowhere to discuss endgame and their sad ending. I got emotional. I didn't want to see Tyler written out that way. And the song choice was great.
Sixth. Klaroline. No problems with it. And their love theme popped up again. Going to have to find that on iTunes. I think I like that better than the Buffy & Angel theme, which is beautiful. I just kind of felt like Caroline is going to choose klaus by default, since Tyler is gone. But I guess they ended things in more than one account.
Seven, who is going to be in TVD next year with all these members leaving?
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Post by Mandy on Feb 16, 2013 13:31:14 GMT -5
I felt a little robbed of episode 14. First, I thought that the freak-out scene from klaroline was going to be Caroline waking up in Klaus' arms. Nope, cut right into her being awake and off to change her wardrobe. Robbed. Second, poor Bonnie. Beremy is gone, the crack ship Kennett is gone and Jamie was a no way, who are we going to ship you with now? Plus, Matt is your only human friend left and he works a lot. Third, Jeremy. Sad that he killed Kol, but sadder that he went on this quest in the first place. The Cure = Death. To Elena, quoting Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, "Death is your gift." Fourth, poor Elena. Lost your connection, your going to go dark- and it is going to turn Damon on a bit. No one to carry on the Gilbert name. Fifth, Forwood. I loved the song at the end. But seriously writers? You gave them their best scene in two years and it ends like this.... And a bunch of Forwood fans come out of nowhere to discuss endgame and their sad ending. I got emotional. I didn't want to see Tyler written out that way. And the song choice was great. Sixth. Klaroline. No problems with it. And their love theme popped up again. Going to have to find that on iTunes. I think I like that better than the Buffy & Angel theme, which is beautiful. I just kind of felt like Caroline is going to choose klaus by default, since Tyler is gone. But I guess they ended things in more than one account. Seven, who is going to be in TVD next year with all these members leaving? Forwood being endgame is going to be tricky. With it coming out the if Trevino ever does return, it will probably be guest star status means that he's not going to be around enough to support a full romance on the show. Plus, Caroline WILL get other other love interests, whether that continues to only be Klaus or someone else. So, they'd just have to bring him back at the end of the series to get endgame. If they stick with their plan to just do guest appearances, in 2.5 seasons when this show is over, who is going to be left to care about Forwood? A lot of Tyler's fans are already saying they are not watching TVD anymore. I do agree about it being a disappointing ending to Tyler's story/character for his fans. He spent this whole season fighting about someone and then lost there at the end. I don't necessarily think the blame can be put on klaus/JoMo, though. The writers made the choice to write Tyler into a corner where the only outcome would be one of them killing each other or one of them having to leave. Plus with the fact that Klaus IS leaving (I think we can all agree the spin off will get picked up) at the end of the season, yet they still don't know if they are bringing him back? Sounds to me like they just wanted to move on from his character regardless. I love Klaroline's theme music! Sorry, but if you have your own theme music, you are not a crack ship.  |
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Post by tania on Feb 16, 2013 17:41:47 GMT -5
The writers made the choice to write Tyler into a corner where the only outcome would be one of them killing each other or one of them having to leave. Plus with the fact that Klaus IS leaving (I think we can all agree the spin off will get picked up) at the end of the season, yet they still don't know if they are bringing him back? Sounds to me like they just wanted to move on from his character regardless. This! The writers wrote themselves into a corner with that Tyler/Klaus plot. Things went too far and the only way this could be resolved would be with either with one of them dead or with one of them gone. The only reason they even managed to interact in 4x13 and 4x14 was the invisible wall between them. I guess they could slow things down until Klaus leaves at the end of the season, but I'm afraid they didn't really know what to do with Tyler anyway. |
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Post by KStewFTW on Feb 17, 2013 16:56:10 GMT -5
Am I the only one that finds it weird that Tyler fans think his whole arc was changed because of the Original spinoff? I've seen so many people (mainly because I lurk in their community... i know... i know) say that the reason Tyler was written off was because Klaus was given his own show. This doesn't really make sense to me. Someone was lamenting the fact that they believed that with Klaus being gone Caroline and Tyler would finally be happy but they ended up writing him off instead. The fact that he's gone and his future on the show is uncertain makes me think they have big plans for Caroline when it comes to the spinoff. The writers knew about it at the end of S3, so I'm sure they had all this planned way before. There's no way they abruptly decided to write Tyler off out of the blue, but many Forwood fans seem to think so  |
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Post by Mandy on Feb 17, 2013 18:38:20 GMT -5
KStew, I also lurk. I have this need to punish myself I guess. After finding out that this episode might possibly be Tyler's last episode ever, I went back and really paid attention to all of his scenes. And boy, they sure didn't send him off on a good note. He basically sat in the background while Klaus and Caroline did all the work. They gave Klaroline 2 pretty big moments (with our theme song! squeeee). I even noticed that when Tyler came in, he mentioned how he'd noticed something on the sword on the drive over which probably meant that Caroline drove...which is FINE. It just sort of was further proof that Caroline is definitely the "mother" role in the relationship. It started with her taking care of him and it ended that way as well. They knew ahead of time when they were going to write out Tyler, yet he was gone for 2 episodes leading up to his send off. Klaus/the spin off/Joseph just have nothing to do with the writers not wanting to write for Tyler anymore. I do feel bad for the Tyler fans because they were expecting a 5 episode leave or something. I know if that had happened to Jomo, I'd be a mess! But some of the backlash hasn't been fair. I need to know what was going on when Klaus was on the floor, with Tyler kneeling beside him! |
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Post by aeidail on Feb 18, 2013 10:10:54 GMT -5
Yes that cut scene! It looked dark..it must have taken place in the evening. The purpose with Tyler's character this season was mostly to make the hybrids' subplot come to full circle. He broke the sirebond last season, which was quite a singular moment for his character and this plot...and as expected he got all the other hybrids unsired as well. Did you find it very odd that Tyler did not even address upon Hayley's betrayal...not a single word? I thought he would go after her as well...that's why some of us didn't expect him to be the one to take the extended leave. She butchered his "heroic" storyline...and was indirectly the reason why his mother died. And in 4X13, when Caroline says "Get me out of here"...that right there was a very important line for the character. It was a must. So obviously someone had to bring her back before Klaus. Which was fine except that Tyler was a bit jarringly insensitive about it all. The healing part and her words in the end would not have felt credible if she had lingered around by her own choice. I don't know, maybe I'm scrutinizing it all wrong but had it gone that way, I would not have liked it...at all. Klaus had to get over his hybrids too. Elena had to stop being such a terrible "blood bag". For some reason, Klaus did not treat his hybrids well...after centuries of wanting such an army. Go figure. It was odd enough that Klaus turned up at Tyler's house to protect him. There was much talk about "slavery", "oppression of will"...Tyler sought to correct that which turned Klaus against everyone (Klaus had planned to kill them all even before Kol's death) and paved way for both their departures. That was all there was for Tyler. (And Klaus got his spin-off  ) I feel like it was also twisted story-telling what with Klaus partially not getting what he came for in the first place. He came into the story, terrorizing everyone in sight only to break the curse that would allow him to be a hybrid and make more of his kind, except that he didn't get away with it in the end. The hybrids were not impressive, anyways. Kinda like how the gang didn't get away with murdering their own kind...Jeremy, I'm sorry but stay dead! Oh there was that awful but kinda valid point of how Klaus would have turned innocent humans otherwise. Meh...but I feel like that was thrown in just to give these "good guys" an excuse to carry out their selfish plans because they had no problem pulling out that stake on an Original, several times before for reasons as stupid as personal revenge, a silly temper and boredom. |
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