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Post by Mandy on Dec 19, 2012 16:48:49 GMT -5
Haha, yeahhhhh. It will wrap around to Elena. But if it was Caroline? And Klaus refused to do it? Oh man, I would drown in my (happy) tears. And then spend the rest of my afterlife gushing about them. ;D Just reading this gave me so many feels!!! I just read another recap and I like that the recapper brought up the fact that they're just trusting Shane with everything. The gang can be so stupid sometimes, a complete stranger comes along and they just spill all their secrets to him because he seems to know more than them. You'd think they would have learned their lesson, there's always a catch! Ugh, yes! People like to go and on how Klaus doesn't trust anyone and he's so mean and blah, blah, blah. And I want to be like "really? This guy has been alive for 1000 years. None of your plans EVER work on him, he's always a step ahead of you, he doesn't get himself kidnapped/tortured on the regular (ahem, DAMON). Obviously he's doing something right". Stop blabbing to everyone!
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Post by Donna on Dec 19, 2012 18:11:20 GMT -5
I actually saw the theory about Caroline needed to be sacrificed before this "Is one of them the cure" promo showed up. It was being tossed around on the net when Connor first showed up and the drawings of his tattoo were on the net.
I'm still learning towards Elena and her magical doppelgangerness.
Shay finally registered here, but hasn't posted. She'd had a theory that the witch that made Silas immortal and then killed his loved one was Ayana. And the woman Silas loved was from the Petrova blood. She thinks that is why Ayana suggested to Esther (in offscreenville) to have Petrova blood create the Originals and seal Klaus' curse. In order to doom the bloodline of her "competitor" for Sila's heart.
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Post by Donna on Dec 20, 2012 5:38:08 GMT -5
I saw something interesting on another board. Who knows if this will be in the actual finished episode. Some though Tyler tries to stab himself. Others think he's having a tantrum and falls on the table. Interesting article from Joseph Morgan about 4x10 and maybe a little of the season after that. www.tvguide.com/News/Vampire-Diaries-Joseph-Morgan-Interview-1057965.aspx
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Post by KlausNCaroline on Dec 20, 2012 9:09:22 GMT -5
I saw something interesting on another board. Who knows if this will be in the actual finished episode. Some though Tyler tries to stab himself. Others think he's having a tantrum and falls on the table. Interesting article from Joseph Morgan about 4x10 and maybe a little of the season after that. www.tvguide.com/News/Vampire-Diaries-Joseph-Morgan-Interview-1057965.aspx"He's pulling the puppet strings and then letting them go to see what happens." This is one thing I love to see from Klaus..the puppet master This is a great interview
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Post by tania on Dec 20, 2012 9:17:16 GMT -5
I saw something interesting on another board. Who knows if this will be in the actual finished episode. Some though Tyler tries to stab himself. Others think he's having a tantrum and falls on the table. Interesting article from Joseph Morgan about 4x10 and maybe a little of the season after that. www.tvguide.com/News/Vampire-Diaries-Joseph-Morgan-Interview-1057965.aspxI watched this gif a dozen times and I'm pretty sure that Tyler isn't holding any deadly objects in his hands. Seems like he just hits his hands on the table and then falls. I guess this episode will focus on Tyler's pain and his grief and try to make us feel bad for him even more.
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Post by Mandy on Dec 20, 2012 9:42:19 GMT -5
I saw something interesting on another board. Who knows if this will be in the actual finished episode. Some though Tyler tries to stab himself. Others think he's having a tantrum and falls on the table. Interesting article from Joseph Morgan about 4x10 and maybe a little of the season after that. www.tvguide.com/News/Vampire-Diaries-Joseph-Morgan-Interview-1057965.aspxI watched this gif a dozen times and I'm pretty sure that Tyler isn't holding any deadly objects in his hands. Seems like he just hits his hands on the table and then falls. I guess this episode will focus on Tyler's pain and his grief and try to make us feel bad for him even more. If their intent is for me to feel sorry for him, it will fail. To me it looks like he's just having a tantrum and breaks the table (and then falls on it? LOL). I commented on that article in the other thread, but I agree with all of you. Very nice interview. I love confident Klaus. He knows there's just not much they can do to him.
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Post by tania on Dec 20, 2012 10:11:40 GMT -5
I watched this gif a dozen times and I'm pretty sure that Tyler isn't holding any deadly objects in his hands. Seems like he just hits his hands on the table and then falls. I guess this episode will focus on Tyler's pain and his grief and try to make us feel bad for him even more. If their intent is for me to feel sorry for him, it will fail. To me it looks like he's just having a tantrum and breaks the table (and then falls on it? LOL). I commented on that article in the other thread, but I agree with all of you. Very nice interview. I love confident Klaus. He knows there's just not much they can do to him. LMAO Mandy, you so harsh with poor Ty. Tbh, I just can't bring myself to care about him. No matter how awesome he is or how unfortunate his life has become, it's of no interest to me. But I sort of feel the same way about Matt, Jeremy and Bonnie so...I'm not invested in half the cast, it seems. I want to see the gang needing Klaus' help (perhaps with the Silas stuff?) and him playing hard to get. ;D
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Post by Mandy on Dec 20, 2012 11:15:41 GMT -5
If their intent is for me to feel sorry for him, it will fail. To me it looks like he's just having a tantrum and breaks the table (and then falls on it? LOL). I commented on that article in the other thread, but I agree with all of you. Very nice interview. I love confident Klaus. He knows there's just not much they can do to him. LMAO Mandy, you so harsh with poor Ty. Tbh, I just can't bring myself to care about him. No matter how awesome he is or how unfortunate his life has become, it's of no interest to me. But I sort of feel the same way about Matt, Jeremy and Bonnie so...I'm not invested in half the cast, it seems. I want to see the gang needing Klaus' help (perhaps with the Silas stuff?) and him playing hard to get. ;D Haha, I can't help ittttt. I liked him ok in season 2 and even liked him with Caroline before Klaus got in there. But after Klaus made his intentions known, I was like "ok, Tyler needs to leave" and was pretty indifferent toward his character. But this season he's constantly been trying to take Klaus out and my indifference turned to anger and now I'm all Klaus is off limits. Plus, everything they've done to make his character "cooler" or better just has had the opposite effect to me. Running around calling himself the alpha? When he only got the alpha status because Hayley told him to, when we all know she was playing him? It just highlighted the fact he wasn't ready for that. This is why I REALLY hope they don't continually have him going after Klaus in the upcoming episodes. Though JoMo makes it seem like everyone is so into their own problems that Klaus just kind of hangs out, safe as can be, watching it all unfold.
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Post by KStewFTW on Dec 20, 2012 17:47:27 GMT -5
Haha, I can't help ittttt. I liked him ok in season 2 and even liked him with Caroline before Klaus got in there. But after Klaus made his intentions known, I was like "ok, Tyler needs to leave" and was pretty indifferent toward his character. But this season he's constantly been trying to take Klaus out and my indifference turned to anger and now I'm all Klaus is off limits. Plus, everything they've done to make his character "cooler" or better just has had the opposite effect to me. Running around calling himself the alpha? When he only got the alpha status because Hayley told him to, when we all know she was playing him? It just highlighted the fact he wasn't ready for that. This is why I REALLY hope they don't continually have him going after Klaus in the upcoming episodes. Though JoMo makes it seem like everyone is so into their own problems that Klaus just kind of hangs out, safe as can be, watching it all unfold. I feel the exact same way about Tyler. This whole hero arc only made me dislike him that much more. It's just getting really annoying, the writers seem to want to push it on us and convince us that he's just so much better than Klaus. I roll my eyes every time he tries to act like he's the hero I don't feel bad for him either, and I've already been told I have issues because I don't care about him (one of my good friends happens to be a Tyler/Forwood fan). The thing is that in the context of the show what Klaus did to Carol is completely justified. It was a consequence that Tyler should have been prepared for. Okay, back on topic... This is the first time I see that Tyler gif but it does look like he's just hitting the table and throwing a giant tantrum. Maybe this is when he finds out Klaus was the one who killed his mom? I dunno. Julie did say that he was going to deal with his grief in his own way and it would be frustrating for Caroline. What do you guys think his reaction would be if he knew that she felt bad for betraying Klaus? ;D
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Post by Nina on Dec 20, 2012 18:36:29 GMT -5
Basically, I think the writers are destroying the Tyler's character. First, he failed on his war against klaus and secondly because of the his death mother, tyler is gonna turn off his humanity and will become as impulsive as in season 1! About the gif, Tyler is to the library and we know caroline, stefan and elena will be there too. Maybe Tyler will learn to klaus and his mother or caroline has regrets for klaus. A spoiler said there will be a lot of revelations in this library's scene
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Post by Mandy on Dec 20, 2012 20:37:30 GMT -5
Oooh, we know that Rebekah lures Tyler to the school for some reason. What if she knows he's hiding and she starts in on Caroline, asking how could she do that to Klaus when he's been so nice to her, how could she use his feelings against him" blah blah blah and Caroline admit she felt bad about doing it. Tyler could hear that and then have his tantrum. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, but it'd be good tv. Like Nina said, we've been told some truths comes out that not everyone is going to be happy with, but it could just be the Stelena stuff she was talking about.
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Post by KStewFTW on Dec 20, 2012 22:59:29 GMT -5
Oooh, we know that Rebekah lures Tyler to the school for some reason. What if she knows he's hiding and she starts in on Caroline, asking how could she do that to Klaus when he's been so nice to her, how could she use his feelings against him" blah blah blah and Caroline admit she felt bad about doing it. Tyler could hear that and then have his tantrum. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, but it'd be good tv. Like Nina said, we've been told some truths comes out that not everyone is going to be happy with, but it could just be the Stelena stuff she was talking about. Well, knowing that Caroline won't want a connection with Klaus after what he did to Carol, I really doubt the scenario we're hoping for will happen. If anything, she's going to be even more in denial about how she feels about him. She must be feeling how S3 Elena felt towards Damon, "If I admit it…if I even let the thought in for just a second…what does that say about me?" Now, you would think Caroline would understand since she was the one pushing Elena to admit that she was "attracted to him and all of his bad brother glory..." Oooooh the parallels...
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Post by Mandy on Dec 20, 2012 23:37:59 GMT -5
Oooh, we know that Rebekah lures Tyler to the school for some reason. What if she knows he's hiding and she starts in on Caroline, asking how could she do that to Klaus when he's been so nice to her, how could she use his feelings against him" blah blah blah and Caroline admit she felt bad about doing it. Tyler could hear that and then have his tantrum. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, but it'd be good tv. Like Nina said, we've been told some truths comes out that not everyone is going to be happy with, but it could just be the Stelena stuff she was talking about. Well, knowing that Caroline won't want a connection with Klaus after what he did to Carol, I really doubt the scenario we're hoping for will happen. If anything, she's going to be even more in denial about how she feels about him. She must be feeling how S3 Elena felt towards Damon, "If I admit it…if I even let the thought in for just a second…what does that say about me?" Now, you would think Caroline would understand since she was the one pushing Elena to admit that she was "attracted to him and all of his bad brother glory..." Oooooh the parallels... Can I pray we get a scene like that between the girls??? I think Caroline being able to talk like that with Elena would move her A LOT closer to being able to at least accept she has some feelings. I mean, obviously they are not dropping the Klaroline relationship. They have the perfect out right now if that's what they wanted to do. Have Caroline hate Klaus because of Carol, have Klaus hate Caroline because of her plot against him. But instead they are making Klaus continue to pursue her and they are making Caroline continue to be drawn to him against her better judgement. That right there should tell everyone that they are taking this storyline seriously. Oh, my shipper heart. Swoon. But yeah, we'll probably get nothing "pro" Klaroline in this next episode, unless Klaus tells Kol that Caroline is off limits or something (though I'm not sure if I'd want him to. He has the right to be mad at her)
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Post by aeidail on Dec 21, 2012 11:35:03 GMT -5
I hated Tyler's storyline from the day it was made clear... seriously, who couldn't have? But then I have to say, his mother's death and Hayley's betrayal has enabled a good foreground for his character. I'm interested to see where this takes him...plus there are some unresolved issues between himself and the MF gang (And It wasn't such a shock that none of them tried to reason with him or cared about him either. I liked that Tyler's character has completely deviated from them- about time!!...it should be interesting with this hunt for the Cure and all, he could definitely make his own stand again and this time, not involving Caroline at all.) oh! greatly looking forward to what everyone's been saying about Klaus sparing Tyler's life. I can totally picture that...it would be very foolish of Tyler to cook up a revenge plan but I'm afraid he will...Isn't he going to learn or what? He should have been prepared...The first thing we ever knew about Klaus was that if you mess with him, he's going to kill everyone you know and then make you pay...honestly, it's hard to feel sorry for Tyler. Hope Stefan says "I told you so..." I'm not worried about the Klaroline "setback"...in the past, Klaus has always been able to completely set aside his feelings for Caroline. We see him burning his drawings at the end of that episode in which Caroline distracts him outside the Grill...then in 4X01, he had no problem threatening to rip Tyler's heart in front of her. He isn't going to be much bothered about her now, atleast for a while...and the fake breakup's been exposed as well. I'm actually dreading their next conversation...can't imagine what it's going to be like. As for Caroline, it's looking really bad (It was her boyfriend's mother...whatever Klaroline happens next is not going to sit well in Tyler's eyes or with Caroline's character in the story) but it's not like she could accuse Klaus outright to his face and get all mad about it...she was in on their plan to take down Klaus (I winced when she said, "we just killed two Original birds with one stone"...it was in character but still) When is Klaus going to give up on his hybrids? It's clear his hybrid army plan is never going to work but I have a feeling that he will or has already gotten over them and is just keen on manipulating everyone about the Cure. Maybe he just wants to hang out with Stefan About Rebekah, she's the first person on my suspect list of characters turning human this season. Damon is second. Imagine Klaus' reaction when he finds out that his sister took the cure...*sigh* lol, I have invested so heavily in this particular vision that I would have written a fanfic by now, if I could. I feel that his sister is the most important thing in his life and if anyone could get Klaus to a good place, it's her or his undeveloped realizations about her. Hey I just found this character analysis on Klaus...dunno if it's right place to post it or if it's already been linked. A very interesting read...I don't completely agree with a few things though. Klaus really does not want control over Caroline's life. alexandrapelaez.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/character-analysis-klaus-from-the-vampire-diaries/
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Post by aeidail on Dec 21, 2012 11:48:19 GMT -5
If their intent is for me to feel sorry for him, it will fail. To me it looks like he's just having a tantrum and breaks the table (and then falls on it? LOL). LOL...!!! ;D I really need an emoticon with a little stick character lying down horizontally, kicking its legs in the air and rolling over in uncontrollable laughter...haha!
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